In what the people of God wish were but a dream, the legitimizing of society's dramatic decline in moral values became the hallmark of 2013 - now embedded in our nation's history.
And in the tailwind of mainstream liberalism's desire to mop the floor with conservatives, is found a band of progressive Mormons, using this temporal momentum to advocate correlating agendas within a religion that understands its purpose and is anchored firmly to their message of salvation.
My review of 2013 will focus on her-story; mine, or rather the way I blogged it, experience it, called it and was invited to write and talk about it from the perspective of a conservative, faithful Mormon woman.
Note: this post is lengthy.
Truly, those who claim to be Christians are being compelled to stretch our understanding and application of Christlike principles so that we might become more like Jesus Christ and be the people we profess to be; His followers.
In all of the challenges and adversity faced in 2013 the successful work of the Lord is evident in the Church's progress, and in the many opportunities that members have been given, or have created, to share their faith with others.
In February, I was invited by The Washington Post's On Faith Blog, alongside of names like Deepak Chopra, Mark Driscoll and Danielle Bean, to name a few, to write about the meaning of love in Mormonism - a definite 2013 highlight for me. After it was published, to my delight, the Mormon Newsroom linked over to the article! Deseret News also recommended it to their readers.
The Washington Post - On Faith: Kathryn Skaggs: A Mormon guide to love
The Mormon Newsroom: A Mormon's View on Love
Beside my passion for boldly speaking what I believe, is my love of social media and using technology to further the work of the Lord, which I actively do in my own little ways and try to encourage others to do as well. I was happy to be interviewed by Deseret News for an excellent article published in conjunction with the General Conference in April.
Deseret News: Values in the Media: A look at General Conference
Corresponding with the growth on my Facebook page in 2013, readership here on the blog has also increased due to the reach of my thoughts and opinions, which were sought throughout the course of the year and most in relation to perceived inequality of Mormon women in the LDS Church and priesthood ordination; ironic, considering I published only one post directly related, in March, addressing the launch of the Ordain Women website.
Attending April 2013 LDS General Conference was a thrill! I came away from that particular conference with a powerful witness of living prophets and thoroughly enjoyed being in the LDS Conference Center (media room), and having the privilege of "noising abroad" the words of living prophets in real-time via the Internet for both the October and April conferences.
In conjunction with April's conference an unprecedented video discussion was posted on the Mormon Newsroom. The three top Mormon women leaders, at the time, shared their frank thoughts about priesthood and being a woman in the Church.
Immediately following (and I mean minutes) a press release was posted about approved organizational changes for missions, in order to implement the new "Mission Leadership Council" - significant for sister missionaries who now have input as members of the council, in the capacity of "sister training leaders"; similar to zone-leaders for Elders.
Three Highest Ranking Mormon Women Speak Out On Equality and Priesthood
As planned, and is now general protocol for Mormon feminists of all varieties, LDS General Conference is used as a key strategy for obtaining media attention to advance their advocacy, publicly; April 2013 being the first. The Daily Beast published a cover story, which emphasized the division between Mormon women caused by their actions. I was reluctantly interviewed as part of the article, as a conservative Mormon woman not in support of their Modus operandi, or opinions about inequality in the Church.
The Daily Beast: Mormon Women Face Off Over Right to Priesthood: A group of Latter-day Saints women are squaring off against their more traditional sisters over the right to get ordained.
Sidebar: What Mormon feminists advocate in opposition to LDS leaders and doctrine is not among what I would consider of great import to the organization of the Church, or society, in 2013. However, my responding to their actions is, for me, personally important; for my own spiritual accountability and duty to God.
It's hard to imagine "children of covenant" living during a more wicked time in the history of the world and required, in the middle of it all, to hasten the work of salvation than those upon the earth today; us. And yet here we are, and it is!
The Mormon Newsroom posted a summary of the 2013 LDS Church highlights, among which is an emphasis on the dramatic increase of the number of missionaries serving throughout the world - and the Church reaching its 15 million in membership milestone; now exceeded!
The LDS Church continues to be among the fastest growing religions in the United States and in the midst of modern-day Babylon! In 2013 preserving freedom of religion was brought to the forefront of Christian and value-based discussions, as critical.
The Church, in its desire to educate members on what religious freedom is (and what it's not), and the need to defend it posted an excellent resources section, including a series of articles, on the Mormon Newsroom: Church Launches New Resources on Freedom of Religion.
Included on the 2013 list of major controversies that affected the LDS Church and its members was the BSA vote on homosexuality, which passed, approving that beginning January 1st, of this year (today) BSA will allow openly gay boys to participate in the Boy Scout program. However, prior to the vote being taken the conversations that took place were shocking!
In all my years of blogging about the most divisive of topics within and without of Mormon culture, nothing prepared me for the initial, negative and passionate reactions, which came from not only those of other Christian denominations, but faithful members of the Church! Seriously, you'd have thought the prophet(s) had all gone astray if you didn't know better.
On the other hand and personally heartwarming to me, were the positive feelings expressed by many in the gay community. Although gays still feel BSA should allow the same for adults who want to participate as leaders in the program, they are glad that BSA and Mormon leaders are united in a willingness to not exclude gay youth who desire to be boy scouts.
Boy Scouts of America Propose Brilliant Plan: Upset Pretty Much Everyone
LDS Church Releases Brilliant Statement in Response BSA Proposal
LDS Church Response: BSA Voting Members Approve Proposal Amidst Controversy
After all of that, in October 2013, the LDS Church celebrated in grand-style their 100-year-old partnership with BSA; awesome!
Mormon 100 Year Partnership with BSA that Almost Wasn't
June 2013 brought about the final chapter of California's Prop 8 saga; my state. That was a dark day realizing the extent to which this nation's justice system, all the way to the U.S Supreme Court, has sunk - both morally and ethically.
At the same time, it was a potent day for the Lord's Church to reaffirm its "unequivocal" stand on the immovable and unchanging doctrine of marriage, which teaches that marriage is ordained of God only between a man and a woman; this, after a year of liberal Mormons and supporting media relentlessly insinuating that the Church was changing (or softening) its position on homosexuality in preparation of an eventual acceptance of homosexual behavior and gay marriage being sanctioned by the Church.
In fact, so convincing were the voices of progressive Mormons in distorting the message of the Church that some of the larger Christian faith organizations came to believe it and are openly critical of the LDS Church for supporting BSA - believing it further evidence of a great downfall to come!
Shocking News: Mormons Declare NOT Softening on Gay Marriage in Response to Prop 8 U.S. Supreme Court Decision!
On the heels of the Proposition 8 court ruling here in California, Deseret News published an article predicting that within 5 years same-sex marriage would be legalized in Utah as gay organizers boldly proclaimed Utah their next target.
Before readying myself once again to cover the 2013 October General Conference, my husband and I, celebrating our 35th Wedding Anniversary in August, decided to take a last-minute, three-week trip to Europe - our first time. It was an amazing trip that we will never forget.
Due to the late planning, my attentions were completely consumed by the necessary preparations to leave (nearly a full-time job) and I pretty much became clueless for a few months as to what was going on in Mormon world - until my return.
Once again, the Ordain Women movement had decided to use General Conference to advocate their cause, but this time they took it to an entirely new level. In order to once again draw attention to their cause they decided they would request tickets to the priesthood session and under the guise of being "faithful" LDS women who simply wanted to make a show that they are ready and serious about being ordained.
As more and more LDS women began to find out what was going on with the Mormon feminists of Ordain Women frustration and concern began to rise. I was contacted privately (as nearly none were willing to publicly share their thoughts), and by more than a few of my readers wanting to know my thoughts and sharing with me that these sisters did not represent them or any of the women in the Church that they know. And most, expressed that they didn't feel any of the negative feelings about not being ordained to the priesthood and didn't feel the need to be in order to feel validated in the Church.
Knowing these frustrations I contemplated blogging about the issue, but felt to hold-back for various reasons. Surprising to me, was when Deseret News contacted me and asked if I would feel comfortable commenting on a piece they were doing, which was going to address the matter.
Once again, reluctantly, but with a confidence I can't explain, I agreed. The interesting thing that happened during that interview, was that I broke a very important rule that would normally have caused me great concern, but it didn't. In fact, I was completely at peace after the interview concluded.
What I did, was that during the interview I clearly made it known that the Mormon feminists requesting tickets to the priesthood session, etc., did not represent the majority of mainstream LDS women - I spoke on behalf of my faithful sisters! You don't do that when you're interviewed and have no authority to do so. I'd never taken such a liberty before, even in my writing. But somehow I knew it was okay; I know the faithful women of my Church. The article that Deseret News published was a very important one and I hope that all of you had the chance to read it.
In early November, Sheri Dew's much anticipated and very timely book, "Mormon women and the Priesthood" was released. I got my hands on it the very day it came out, read it and posted my review. I tell you this, because I feel that we all need to read it; it's that important considering current events.
Book Review: Sheri Dew on Mormon Women, Priesthood and Gender Equality
Because I know that division is an act of free-will, intended to liberate those who feel imprisoned by the very thing that will provide true freedom, I don't fear it. It is God-given. It is liberal ideologies, which suggest that division is to be shamed and sameness unity; not God.
I believe that we can be divided on many things in this world, but must resist contention; there's a huge difference. Our goal is not to become equal or same with each other, but with God. Let us not confuse the doctrine of unity in order to tolerate sin temporally.
We can love each other and reject all things contrary to God's will; that is our charge as disciples of Christ. And that is what we will do going forward into this new year with the ongoing challenges of discipleship.
tDMg
Kathryn Skaggs
Happy New Year!
And in the tailwind of mainstream liberalism's desire to mop the floor with conservatives, is found a band of progressive Mormons, using this temporal momentum to advocate correlating agendas within a religion that understands its purpose and is anchored firmly to their message of salvation.
My review of 2013 will focus on her-story; mine, or rather the way I blogged it, experience it, called it and was invited to write and talk about it from the perspective of a conservative, faithful Mormon woman.
Note: this post is lengthy.
When I launched WBMW in 2008, as a way to provide credible information about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as simply a lay-member, I didn't give much thought that I might still be writing here today, nor where my simple desire to stand for truth and righteousness would take me emotionally, spiritually and even physically.
As I reflect on 2013, it was a year that brought much of what I am passionate and opinionated about, and of deep concern to the LDS Church, front and center in many of our lives. What went down in California in June, by December affects members in Utah, equally; and for many, seemed to come without warning.
As I reflect on 2013, it was a year that brought much of what I am passionate and opinionated about, and of deep concern to the LDS Church, front and center in many of our lives. What went down in California in June, by December affects members in Utah, equally; and for many, seemed to come without warning.
A little over a year ago, I decided to be more open with my readers about my personal life and found that in doing so my Facebook page, A Well-Behaved Mormon Woman, grew from approximately 2,500 "Likes" a year ago to over 6,000 in 2013! We've had important discussions there and a lot of fun getting to know each other. So, I'm going to make this 2013 review somewhat personal, too.
Because this blog tightly adheres to addressing many of the social issues that affect conservative Mormons, LDS women's issues, the Mormon faith, and my personal values I decided that I would use this post to gather in one place how and where I've responded during 2013 to much of what happened pertaining to Mormonism.
In order to put 2013 in context, we need to step-back for a moment and recall the climate in which it began. Not only had the LDS Church concluded a Mormon moment that seemed to go on forEVer and Prop 8 'nearing' its stunning and incomprehensible climax, but it had just launched a somewhat controversial, official LDS website; each setting the stage for what was to come.
The LDS Church launched MormonsandGays.org to help members who identify as homosexual, their families, and members gain greater insights into the complex challenges associated with being "gay" (yes, they use the term gay on the website), and living a faithful and fulfilling life within the LDS community. The official position of the LDS Church on homosexuality is posted on the landing page of the website.
Needless to say, but in 2013 more than ever before Mormons have had much to consider in regard to not only mainstream society's aggressive push to normalize homosexual relationships, in general, but also how to apply the Church's position (charity) in relation to the legalization of same-sex marriage and in developing a better understanding of how to embrace homosexuals, and in particular our gay members.Truly, those who claim to be Christians are being compelled to stretch our understanding and application of Christlike principles so that we might become more like Jesus Christ and be the people we profess to be; His followers.
In all of the challenges and adversity faced in 2013 the successful work of the Lord is evident in the Church's progress, and in the many opportunities that members have been given, or have created, to share their faith with others.
In February, I was invited by The Washington Post's On Faith Blog, alongside of names like Deepak Chopra, Mark Driscoll and Danielle Bean, to name a few, to write about the meaning of love in Mormonism - a definite 2013 highlight for me. After it was published, to my delight, the Mormon Newsroom linked over to the article! Deseret News also recommended it to their readers.
The Washington Post - On Faith: Kathryn Skaggs: A Mormon guide to love
The Mormon Newsroom: A Mormon's View on Love
Beside my passion for boldly speaking what I believe, is my love of social media and using technology to further the work of the Lord, which I actively do in my own little ways and try to encourage others to do as well. I was happy to be interviewed by Deseret News for an excellent article published in conjunction with the General Conference in April.
Deseret News: Values in the Media: A look at General Conference
Corresponding with the growth on my Facebook page in 2013, readership here on the blog has also increased due to the reach of my thoughts and opinions, which were sought throughout the course of the year and most in relation to perceived inequality of Mormon women in the LDS Church and priesthood ordination; ironic, considering I published only one post directly related, in March, addressing the launch of the Ordain Women website.
In other words, that one post made quite an impact coming from the perspective of a conservative Mormon women (and continues to be read regularly), as opposed to the unified, vocal Mormon feminists voices who have taken to misrepresenting the majority of LDS women by actively seeking the media to advocate for what I continue to feel is oppositional to the doctrine of the LDS Church, its leaders and the unity of its membership.
In conjunction with April's conference an unprecedented video discussion was posted on the Mormon Newsroom. The three top Mormon women leaders, at the time, shared their frank thoughts about priesthood and being a woman in the Church.
Immediately following (and I mean minutes) a press release was posted about approved organizational changes for missions, in order to implement the new "Mission Leadership Council" - significant for sister missionaries who now have input as members of the council, in the capacity of "sister training leaders"; similar to zone-leaders for Elders.
Three Highest Ranking Mormon Women Speak Out On Equality and Priesthood
Video: Top Mormon Women Leaders Provide Insights into Church Leadership and Women's Perspectives
As planned, and is now general protocol for Mormon feminists of all varieties, LDS General Conference is used as a key strategy for obtaining media attention to advance their advocacy, publicly; April 2013 being the first. The Daily Beast published a cover story, which emphasized the division between Mormon women caused by their actions. I was reluctantly interviewed as part of the article, as a conservative Mormon woman not in support of their Modus operandi, or opinions about inequality in the Church.
The Daily Beast: Mormon Women Face Off Over Right to Priesthood: A group of Latter-day Saints women are squaring off against their more traditional sisters over the right to get ordained.
Sidebar: What Mormon feminists advocate in opposition to LDS leaders and doctrine is not among what I would consider of great import to the organization of the Church, or society, in 2013. However, my responding to their actions is, for me, personally important; for my own spiritual accountability and duty to God.
It's hard to imagine "children of covenant" living during a more wicked time in the history of the world and required, in the middle of it all, to hasten the work of salvation than those upon the earth today; us. And yet here we are, and it is!
The Mormon Newsroom posted a summary of the 2013 LDS Church highlights, among which is an emphasis on the dramatic increase of the number of missionaries serving throughout the world - and the Church reaching its 15 million in membership milestone; now exceeded!
The LDS Church continues to be among the fastest growing religions in the United States and in the midst of modern-day Babylon! In 2013 preserving freedom of religion was brought to the forefront of Christian and value-based discussions, as critical.
The Church, in its desire to educate members on what religious freedom is (and what it's not), and the need to defend it posted an excellent resources section, including a series of articles, on the Mormon Newsroom: Church Launches New Resources on Freedom of Religion.
Included on the 2013 list of major controversies that affected the LDS Church and its members was the BSA vote on homosexuality, which passed, approving that beginning January 1st, of this year (today) BSA will allow openly gay boys to participate in the Boy Scout program. However, prior to the vote being taken the conversations that took place were shocking!
In all my years of blogging about the most divisive of topics within and without of Mormon culture, nothing prepared me for the initial, negative and passionate reactions, which came from not only those of other Christian denominations, but faithful members of the Church! Seriously, you'd have thought the prophet(s) had all gone astray if you didn't know better.
On the other hand and personally heartwarming to me, were the positive feelings expressed by many in the gay community. Although gays still feel BSA should allow the same for adults who want to participate as leaders in the program, they are glad that BSA and Mormon leaders are united in a willingness to not exclude gay youth who desire to be boy scouts.
Boy Scouts of America Propose Brilliant Plan: Upset Pretty Much Everyone
LDS Church Releases Brilliant Statement in Response BSA Proposal
LDS Church Response: BSA Voting Members Approve Proposal Amidst Controversy
After all of that, in October 2013, the LDS Church celebrated in grand-style their 100-year-old partnership with BSA; awesome!
Mormon 100 Year Partnership with BSA that Almost Wasn't
June 2013 brought about the final chapter of California's Prop 8 saga; my state. That was a dark day realizing the extent to which this nation's justice system, all the way to the U.S Supreme Court, has sunk - both morally and ethically.
At the same time, it was a potent day for the Lord's Church to reaffirm its "unequivocal" stand on the immovable and unchanging doctrine of marriage, which teaches that marriage is ordained of God only between a man and a woman; this, after a year of liberal Mormons and supporting media relentlessly insinuating that the Church was changing (or softening) its position on homosexuality in preparation of an eventual acceptance of homosexual behavior and gay marriage being sanctioned by the Church.
In fact, so convincing were the voices of progressive Mormons in distorting the message of the Church that some of the larger Christian faith organizations came to believe it and are openly critical of the LDS Church for supporting BSA - believing it further evidence of a great downfall to come!
Shocking News: Mormons Declare NOT Softening on Gay Marriage in Response to Prop 8 U.S. Supreme Court Decision!
On the heels of the Proposition 8 court ruling here in California, Deseret News published an article predicting that within 5 years same-sex marriage would be legalized in Utah as gay organizers boldly proclaimed Utah their next target.
""This is the state to have that fight. If we can do it here, where can we not do it?" said Brett Tolman, a former U.S. Attorney for Utah now in private practice."When I read that, I got chills. I decided to share it on my WBMW FB page and suggest to my readers, many who live in Utah, that the gauntlet had just been thrown down and that they best take it seriously. You can read that status update here, and the discussion that ensued.
Before readying myself once again to cover the 2013 October General Conference, my husband and I, celebrating our 35th Wedding Anniversary in August, decided to take a last-minute, three-week trip to Europe - our first time. It was an amazing trip that we will never forget.
Due to the late planning, my attentions were completely consumed by the necessary preparations to leave (nearly a full-time job) and I pretty much became clueless for a few months as to what was going on in Mormon world - until my return.
Once again, the Ordain Women movement had decided to use General Conference to advocate their cause, but this time they took it to an entirely new level. In order to once again draw attention to their cause they decided they would request tickets to the priesthood session and under the guise of being "faithful" LDS women who simply wanted to make a show that they are ready and serious about being ordained.
As more and more LDS women began to find out what was going on with the Mormon feminists of Ordain Women frustration and concern began to rise. I was contacted privately (as nearly none were willing to publicly share their thoughts), and by more than a few of my readers wanting to know my thoughts and sharing with me that these sisters did not represent them or any of the women in the Church that they know. And most, expressed that they didn't feel any of the negative feelings about not being ordained to the priesthood and didn't feel the need to be in order to feel validated in the Church.
Knowing these frustrations I contemplated blogging about the issue, but felt to hold-back for various reasons. Surprising to me, was when Deseret News contacted me and asked if I would feel comfortable commenting on a piece they were doing, which was going to address the matter.
Once again, reluctantly, but with a confidence I can't explain, I agreed. The interesting thing that happened during that interview, was that I broke a very important rule that would normally have caused me great concern, but it didn't. In fact, I was completely at peace after the interview concluded.
What I did, was that during the interview I clearly made it known that the Mormon feminists requesting tickets to the priesthood session, etc., did not represent the majority of mainstream LDS women - I spoke on behalf of my faithful sisters! You don't do that when you're interviewed and have no authority to do so. I'd never taken such a liberty before, even in my writing. But somehow I knew it was okay; I know the faithful women of my Church. The article that Deseret News published was a very important one and I hope that all of you had the chance to read it.
Another significant thing that came out of that whole conference circus (OW marching and insisting on being let into the priesthood session), was that during the press conference that OW had arranged to take place after they weren't allowed iito the male-only session, because they knew they wouldn't be (tickets also denied) was a statement that Ruth Todd made. She said,
"Millions of women in this church do not share the views of this small group who organized today's protest, and most church members would see such efforts as divisive. Even so, these are our sisters and we want them among us, and hope they will find the peace and joy we all seek in the gospel of Jesus Christ."
Here are a few other articles I was interviewed for, or was quoted around the same time and on the same topic.
Standard Examiner: LDS women priesthood crashers rebuffed at church conference
Aljazeera - America: Mormon women march for entry into priesthood
In early November, Sheri Dew's much anticipated and very timely book, "Mormon women and the Priesthood" was released. I got my hands on it the very day it came out, read it and posted my review. I tell you this, because I feel that we all need to read it; it's that important considering current events.
Book Review: Sheri Dew on Mormon Women, Priesthood and Gender Equality
I was invited by LDS Living Magazine to write a review for their website, covering Chapter Two of Sister Dew's book, specifically. I knew others would be covering the remaining chapters, but I didn't know who? And boy am I glad I didn't! I was pretty taken back when the series of articles was published and I saw the names of the other six!
2013 went out like a lion, with the swift legalization of same-sex marriage in, of all places, Utah! What was predicted to take perhaps five years, took less than six months from the time the prediction and challenge were made following the Prop 8 decision by SCOTUS; leaving many reeling in shock!
The LDS Church posted an official response to the court ruling on the Mormon Newsroom in support of those who originally voted to preserve traditional marriage and confirming the official and unchanging position of the Church on marriage.
Having been through Prop 8, as a California resident and member of the Church, I know what it feels like to have your world rocked when what is believed to be progressive wields its way in such a manner that you feel you've lost the power to do anything about it.
There is still much we all can and must do going forward and I believe the Lord expects us to continue to be light.
Because I know that division is an act of free-will, intended to liberate those who feel imprisoned by the very thing that will provide true freedom, I don't fear it. It is God-given. It is liberal ideologies, which suggest that division is to be shamed and sameness unity; not God.
I believe that we can be divided on many things in this world, but must resist contention; there's a huge difference. Our goal is not to become equal or same with each other, but with God. Let us not confuse the doctrine of unity in order to tolerate sin temporally.
We can love each other and reject all things contrary to God's will; that is our charge as disciples of Christ. And that is what we will do going forward into this new year with the ongoing challenges of discipleship.
tDMg
Kathryn Skaggs
Happy New Year!
Thanks for posting this. It is surreal to see how the changes seemed so gradual, and yet I think Obama's and the Supreme Court's choices prepared the way (think boiling the frog) for the stunning, stunning decision which was shockingly not stayed last month in Utah.
ReplyDeleteMichael,
DeleteThe cause to normalize homosexuality, in my opinion, was not taken seriously years ago when mainstream America thought it okay to welcome sitcoms and movies into our comfort zones - thinking it just comedy. If society knew back then what we know now, most would likely not have laughed, nor engaged.
As you say, its the old "boiling frog" principle and sadly anytime it is used to cook its victim, it is always a shock when that victim finds they are center-plate; works every time!
In California, as the saga actually did develop over time, although relative to the history of the world it happened in lightening speed,we did see the writing on the wall in how everything from messaging to activist judges placed a necessary piece of the strategy in the perfect order; it became predictable.
But I know for Utah, because many believed it could never happen there, it was and still is a shocking predicament to be found.
Kathryn,
DeleteI actually learned about your blog and the famous Frozen article through a link on HuffPost (of which I am not a frequent visitor, I must add). Anyway, I saw that your article must have been what my mother was referring to when she mentioned some weeks back that there were two fathers in the cabin scene of this film. Glad to see that wasn't the case. But, I was impressed with the insight, boldness, and articulateness you demonstrated in posting your thoughts. I only saw about half of the movie, and my wife saw the other half, as we took turns dealing with two restless boys. So, I did not get the full picture you were able to after watching it several times. After reading your article, though, I absolutely agree with you that there is no way the writers/producers could have NOT intended that this film promote the homosexual lifestyle. It is no secret that Disney sympathizes with the homosexual movement; they recently just pulled funding from the BSA, due to homosexual adults still being banned from the organization.
I, too, am extremely disturbed by the infiltration of this deviant behavior into most every film and TV show - including "family" entertainment. To illustrate, I have provided the following link:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/theboxtrolls/#videos-large
When I first saw this (I was watching with my 2 yr old), I could not believe it. And unlike Frozen, this isn't subtle; in fact, it couldn't be more blatant. Needless, to say, my family will not be supporting this film.
I really believe that we, who hold traditional morals sacred, have got to stand up more against the normalization of this behavior, which is completely contrary to God's law and nature's law, or we will be partially to blame for the the rampant degradation of society we see today. I applaud you for taking the time, for bearing the insults, and for not apologizing. We need a million more like you.
Again, we should not fear to denounce what we know to be sin. We are not calling on anyone to be shunned for having different beliefs, but we cannot sit idly by while Hollywood and much of the world promote the acceptance of homosexuality to our children. Though not apparent from many of the comments after your article, people can disagree and still be civil. Thanks for being civil.
Respectfully,
Ryan Smith
I am tired and a bit weepy just reading this. It was a big year, sad in many ways. I'm glad I kind of checked out on some things. Thanks for this write up, I'm sure it must have taken some time. All the best to you!
ReplyDeleteAnd I, when reviewing all of these things; so much happened! This was time consuming, but I really wanted to look back and gather my record, so to speak and put it all in context. It's my way of journaling. ; )
DeleteOutstanding work as always Kathryn, well summarised, lots of things to reflect upon, thanks for sharing. :-)
ReplyDeleteThank you, John.
DeleteI'm grateful you were interviewed in the Deseret News this year, otherwise I never would have found your interesting blog. Keep up the great work! :)
ReplyDeleteThank you, Adrie. Although reluctant as I was, I'm so grateful to know that so many of us stand with the Lord and His prophets. I'm glad we've connected, too. Thanks for reading. :)
DeleteGreat round up of 2013, thank you Kathryn. However, I think you should maybe fact check your definition of OW's actions. You defined them as "marching and insisting on being let into the priesthood session." I'm guessing you are not informed about their actions because I know you would never flat out mischaracterize a group's actions on purpose like that. The women did not "insist" on being let into priesthood session but rather politely asked if you could be let in and were politely denied. For a more accurate portrayal of what happened I suggest you view this mini documentary of the day of the women who participated in OW. It may challenge your perspective but I hope you watch it all the way through. http://vimeo.com/77027706 Thank you.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Emily.
ReplyDeleteI did see the video shortly after it was posted, and to be honest I felt is was quite manipulative and does not tell the true story behind the OW movement; perhaps for a few.
I may describe things differently than some, but how I described Ordain Women's actions is not inaccurate from my perspective and quite a few others. In fact, I was at General Conference that weekend and followed the events closely.
I see the insistence of the organization in their request for tickets being "officially" and publicly turned down, by the Church, in their choice to completely disregard that answer, and instead continue with their pursuit to get into the Priesthood session by putting ushers, and others, in an awkward position; lack of respect for leaders and membership who faithfully sustain the leadership of the Church.
Instead, Ordain Women continued with the next step in their campaign and organized in such a way to draw media attention to highlight a perceived inequality and lack of compassion by the Church and its members.
In so doing, Ruth Todd, Spokeswoman for the Church, clearly let media know that the actions of OW were likely "divisive" to most members and did not represent millions of other LDS women.
It seems pretty clear to me that from the perspective of the Church and the majority of its members that how OW operates is not seen as appropriate or acceptable among the Saints, but rather a choice to be openly rebellious; "divisive".
Please note, that I have said nothing about the desire by some women in the LDS Church to be ordained to the priesthood. I take no issue with a sister’s personal wishes, nor do I have a lack of compassion for the pain experienced by some sisters in the Church, who feel as though it is being withheld; though I disagree.
BTW, have you ever heard the saying... "Actions speak louder than words"?
It is my understanding that OW will continue to disregard that their actions are deemed as divisive by Church leaders and the majority of its members, ongoing, and in the name of "faithful" and even "well-behaved" Mormon women.
Kathryn, I'm so pleased that you watched it. I'm initially surprised that you are able to write it off as a manipulative misrepresentation of the day and OW participants, but I guess the old saying is true "we see what we want to see."
DeleteYou are obviously welcome to your perspective, but I do wonder why you insist on characterizing a group of your sisters in a way that they would never describe themselves. As mormons, we have a history of being constantly misrepresented by others as "non-Christians, cult members, blindly-following our prophets, etc" and those are frustrating assertions given that we would never describe ourselves that way, and they are not accurate. I find your description of OW members very similar. You are an outsider to the OW cause and instead of understanding your sisters you belittle them in your inaccurate portrayal of their intents and actions and call it your "perspective."
I agree that from the perspective of many members of the church, the OW group is seen as inappropriate- but I do wonder if it is because of the mischaracterizations from people like you, or from the group themselves. These women are nothing like the stereotypes being thrown around, and I know that first hand. Just because something is seen as "divisive" by those who enjoy the status quo, does not make it bad. Martin Luther King was divisive, Joseph Smith was divisive, Prop 8 was divisive (and I know you thought that was a great cause), Jesus Christ was divisive. Not that these events or people intended to be divisive, but anything that is against the status quo is usually divisive.
What is your point in stating that many women would find OW divisive? That unless someone agrees with the majority they should keep their opinions to themselves and avoid trying to change things? That doesn't seem like a principle you would agree with but I have a hard time understanding why else you would focus so much on that word that Ruth Todd said.
I'm glad you find nothing wrong with the desire of some women in the LDS church to be ordained to the priesthood. What do you suggest that a women who feels this way does? Stay quiet? Not follow her heart and the spirit to join a group that shares in this feeling? Not bring attention to a cause that is important to many women?
I have heard the saying that actions speak louder than words, which is I think part of the reason OW took action... to show how they feel about gender inequality (which by the way is not "perceived" but measurable in the governance structure and availability of priesthood in the church, "equality" is not a feeling).
I agree with you that OW will continue to disagree that their actions are divisive to church leaders and the majority of its members because just because a PR person says something does not make it true. Please show me where church leaders (not PR people) have spoken that OW has been divisive, and please show me the poll that says that the "majority" of church members find OW divisive.
Thanks for your response. Obviously the only path we have is to agree to disagree on this issue, and I appreciate you engaging. I hope you paid attention to the other thing that Ruth Todd said in her PR address: "these are our sisters and we want them among us.” In case you were wondering, your words about OW sisters may not make them feel welcome in your ward, but maybe that is your goal and you would be happier if they just leave since in your mind they obviously can't be "faithful" or "well-behaved" and advocate for greater gender equality in our Church.
Emily, it would be much easier to have disregarded and not published this comment because you have made the choice to mischaracterize my responses to your original comment with the intent to be viewed as a victim and I, as a conservative Mormon woman, heartless to your plight; same tactic used in video. It is bait and frankly I’d prefer to not bite.
DeleteHowever, I’m going to be very honest here… I feel that much of what you have accused me of doing/saying is representative of how, in general, Mormon feminists respond to any resistance to their actions from their sisters within the Church, in order to silence or diminish that opposition. Because LDS women, in particular, are very sensitive to not wanting to hurt or offend anyone, let alone be viewed as uncaring or having no compassion for another sister in the gospel, most of these good and kind sisters remain silent; knowing that if they speak out they will likely be deemed by vocal feminists as unChristlike, and in many cases publicly; your latest comment proves my point.
The LDS history that I am more concerned with is that which we are making now and the message that is being sent out into the world about Mormon women and who we are, as a whole, which is not representative of the OW movement. Which is what the statement given by Ruth Todd indicated quite forcefully; although, as I said before, it’s being disregarded. And let me add, as not official; big mistake.
My point? To distinguish clearly that the OW organization does not represent the thoughts of the majority of LDS women and how they feel about their membership in the Church. Most, would not advocate outside of the Church to be ordained to the priesthood. Most, don’t share the OW organization’s claim of inequality in how the Church is organized. Some, might be happy to validate concerns that some male leaders on local levels have used their position wrongly and have offended LDS women causing them much emotional pain. Most, would agree that a priesthood leader who would act in such a way is out of line and not in keeping with the doctrine of the priesthood and would be viewed by the Lord and His Prophet(s) as unrighteous.
I’m sorry that you feel because I don’t agree with how the OW organization goes about the group advocacy and that I see it as divisive you can then judge me as misunderstanding and belittling of individual women. I know that I can disagree with a sister and even consider an organization she affiliates with as divisive and still love her and have compassion for her spiritual struggles, of which I am no stranger as you suggest.
What I sincerely pray for, is that each of these women will fully come unto Christ and trust Him completely, knowing that He leads and guides His Church through a living prophet. I pray they will come to realize their great role in the plan of salvation as women and that they already have available to them everything necessary to equally participate in the work of salvation. I pray they will spend more time in the temple seeking after the Lord, directly. I pray that they will find peace and understanding, not as the world offers, but what is revealed by the Spirit and whose peace surpasseth all understanding. I pray that they will take up the Lord’s cause rather than their own and in so doing look beyond temporal injustice and focus on the equality that will make them equal with God.
These are the prayers of my heart, personally, for myself and I desire them for all of us so that through Christ, regardless of our differences individually, we can unify in Christ through obedience to His will. I wish you the best in your personal journey of faith and sincerely hope that you will find the understanding that you need in order to cast your burden aside and allow the Savior to carry you…
Kathryn- you stand as a witness to the truthfulness of God's work on the earth. If there is a doctrine that we have trouble with, it is us that lacks understanding, not the doctrine. I applaud your ability to gracefully and lovingly stand firm. Thank you, and may The Lord bless you and your loved ones as you continue in your righteous pursuits.
ReplyDeleteMy goodness, you are a frightened little woman aren't you? It amazes me that you actually think you're doing GOOD by spreading fear and discord.
ReplyDeleteWhat a sad, lonely world you must live in. Good luck with that. Oh, and I think your mormon church isn't helping much...if you think you're Christlike, you might want to ask yourself, "would Jesus have a blog like this?" Yeah...I don't think so. LOL!
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ReplyDeleteIt's in the title of your entire blog really. A well behaved woman, simply following the sexist, close minded ideals of a sadly uncontested upbringing. I understand and even respec your conviction. I just hope you're the kind of mother and grandmother that brings up children that can be educated and open minded about issues you cannot comprehend. Often that's a bigger accomplishment than any actions you may undergo based on an antiquated set of moral parameters.
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